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OCTOBER 24 2013

ONE OF THE BEST ANNIVERSARY NOTICES I HAVE EVER SEEN.

N.V. DEC 19 1884.

MR. JOHN L. PORTER SUPERINTENDENT OF THE PORTSMOUTH AND NORFOLK COUNTY FERRIES CELEBRATED THE 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF HIS MARRIAGE YESTERDAY WITH HIS MOST EXCELLENT WIFE,  YESTERDAY BY A GOLDEN WEDDING WHICH WAS LARGELY ATTENED BY ALL THEIR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN WHO COULD BE PRESENT……………….. MR. PORTER HAS HAD A MOST ENVIABLE CAREER, AND  IS STILL IN VIGOROUS HEALTH NOT WITHSTANDING HE IS NOW 73 YEARS OF AGE. HE IS A NATIVE OF THIS CITY AND HAS RESIDED HERE NEARLY ALL HIS LIFE. HIS WIFE WAS SUSAN N. BUXTON AND WAS BORN IN NANSEMOND COUNTY, MAY 17 1817. THEY WERE MARRIED IN PORTSMOUTH DEC 18,1834. BY REV. JOHN KERR OF THE VIRGINIAN M.E. CONFERENCE. …..  ARTICLE GOES ON TO DISCUSS MR. PORTERS NAVAL CAREER.



JULY 18 2013

NOV. 29. 1896
NANSEMOND’S RECORD OF BIRTHS HAS BEEN BROKEN, ALICE MYRICK, WIFE OF WALLER MYRICK, LIVING IN BARRETT’S NECK DID IT. ON FEBRUARY 10TH SHE GAVE BIRTH TO A GIRL BABY THAT  WAS CALLED BERTHA. ON NOVEMBER 23RD, ALICE BECOME THE MOTHER OF TWINS A BOY AND GIRL. THEY WERE NAMED FLETCHER AND CORA. BOTH THE FATHER AND MOTHER ARE MEDIUM SIZE PEOPLE. THE FATHER IS AN OYSTERMAN. 



MAY 5 2013

WERE MOVING!!!

N.V. 03.04.1892 (Suffolk)
Mrs. Robert Nelms and children and Mrs. T.P. SAVAGE and children left  yestreday to make their future home in hampton. Mrs. Nelms will open a boarding house, which she is fully capable of managing having managed at the commercial hotel several years. mrs. savage will go in the milinery business there and she also has many years experience in the business.

NOTE: N.V. 04.04.1892
LIFE STORY OF CHARLES REID IN NEWSPAPER:
SON OF GEORGE AND ELIZABETH TAYLOR REID BORN AT FORTAR SCOTLAND 04.04.1800.
(RE- BIRTHDAY PARTY ARTICLE)

MAY 2 2013

INTERESTING TIDBIT: peta was created in 1891 and held their first annual meeting at the Y.M.C.A and was called to order by President IRVINE and opened with a prayer by REV. MR. ROBERTSON OF THE COLLEY MEMORIAL CHURCH, ATLANTIC CITY. N.V.22 1892. (if looking on a map, the area where peta is currently down by norfolk general hospital was atlantic city va)

MAY 1 2013

NOW THIS COULD REALLY HELP you in your genealogy search, as you won't find information like this any where else but in a newspaper: N.V. 01.05.1892 RECEIVED FROM GOSHEN IND.
MRS. MINNIE C.HANSON who secured a divorce from her husband last week was married yesterday evening to F.L. MOREHOUSE OF ELKHART. This makes her 6th time.
Her first venture was JOHN WILLIAMS OF GRAND RAPIDS MICHIGAN, who fell from a scaffold and was killed.
Her 2nd was HENRY NICE, of BATTLE CREEK, who was sent to the penitentiary for life for killing BOB MCMULLEN. Her 3rd husband was DANIEL LOCKHART OF ELKHART with whom she lived for a year and then married ANDREW SMITH of the same place. She lived with SMITH for 2 years, secured a divorce and MARRIED CHARLES HANSON. The maiden name of this very much bemarried woman was MINNIE BECK and she is presently 33 years of age.

APRIL 30 2013
PARENTS....... they sometimes forget important info......N.V. 10.22.1891, CARDS ARE OUT FOR THE MARRIAGE OF MISS GUSSIE, ELDEST DAU. OF MR. AND MRS. MAX LEVY, WHICH WILL TAKE PLACE ON WED NOV 4TH AT 5PM AT MONTEFIORE HALL NORFOLK VA...... Two things 1. GROOM ANYONE? 2. THE license is Portsmouth..... and i searched and found the groom he is either mayer sam or mayer tams....................LOL. maybe this is a hint that the didn't like the groom much?


APRIL 29 2013
Just in Case you wanted to know who was who, N.V. 08.06.1891:
MR. RICHARD COX AND WIFE, THOMAS B. GRIFFIN AND WIFE, MRS. JOHNT. GRIFFIN AND DAUGHTER, MISS KIRN AND MISS BESSIE KIRN, MRS. NATHANIEL GRIFFIN AND MOTHER OF JOHN T. GRIFFIN AND MRS. MCCANN, all of churchland section of norfolk county left for AFTON VIRGINIA to spend some time.


APRIL 28 2013

IN the where have i been, where am i now & where am I going category? N.V. 06.10.1891....REV. D.G.C. BUTTS will arrive with his two daughters MISSES MARY AND ANNA BUTTS, this morning from SUFFOLK, where the young ladies have been attending the seminary in that place resided over by DR. BUTTS NIECE, MISS LULA BUTTS. THEY WILL BE THE GUESTS OF MR. ALBERT E.CHERRY AT 317 FOURT STREET, WHILE IN THE TOWN AND WILL LEAVE THURS MORNING VIA STEAMER NORTHAMPTON FOR THEIR HOME. (QUEST: where's home? LOL)


APRIL 27 2013

In the wondering where you were category: N.V.05.29.1891
MR. WILLIAM MORRIS OF THE U.S. MARINE HOSPITAL ST.LOUIS, MO, FORMERLY OF NORFOLK VA, HAS BEEN ORDERED TO KEY WEST FLORIDA..........

APRIL 26 2013
MYSTERY SOLVED, WHY IS MY ANCESTOR NOT WITH HIS FAMILY IN THE 1890 CENSUS...opps forgot there is no 1890 census..........ok, here's the story: N.V. 05.06.1891
MR. MIKE KAUFMAN, SON OF JACOB KAUFMAN WHO HAS BEEN LIVING IN TARBORO NC. FOR ABOUT A YEAR, came home yesterday on a visit to his father and sisters...

APRIL 25 2013

I am still trying to figure this one out. In my case while my ancestor LIVED/principal residence/ in NY when he died, he was on vacation in florida when he actually died. that's why the will is in ny and the death cert in florida. But the Reason that i'm having a hard time trying to figure this out is because while she lived in Norfolk, it doesn't sound like she had a residence here anyone and it sounds like she was married etc all in ny. so i'm not sure why the will was filed in Norfolk, but the whole thing is in the newpaper with the following introduction: N.V.04.07.1891 THE WILL OF MRS. AUGUSTA B. PERRY FORMERLY OF THIS CITY, BUT A RESIDENT OF NEW YORK AT THE TIME OF HER DEATH, WHICH WAS ADMITTED TO RECORD YESTERDAY IN THE CORPORATION COURT................... AND THE LAST SENTENCE SAYS, UNDER NEW YORK LAWS..............

APRIL 24 2013

I'm trying to figure out what kind of marriage this couple had. It was definately a long distance one.............N.V. 03.17.1891 UNDER LOCAL BRIEFS:
REV. W.P. HINES OF RICHMOND was on a vist to his wife in WEST NORFOLK, last week.

APRIL 22 2013

I WAS SPEECHLESS AFTER READING THIS: can you tell what's MISSING: N.V. 01.07.1891
JAMES A. BRYAN AN ASSISTANT FOREMAN IN THE FIRE DEPT. WAS MARRIED YESTERDAY AFTERNOON BY REV. WG. STARR , AT A VERY PRETTY WEDDING WHICH OCCURED AT THE CUMBERLAND STREET M.E. CHURCH.

IT GOES ON TO LIST THE USHERS ETC....... WHAT would have been helpful .............. was the name of the BRIDE.........lol..

APRIL 11 2013

N.V.05.05.1889 GREENSBORO N.C.: The revolutionary battle of GUILFORD COURTHOUSE was celebrated on the battleground near this place today. Several thousand people were present. Senator Z.B. Vance a great favorite in this his native state was the orator of the day, and delivered an eloquent and finished address in which he maintaned that the foundation of American Liberty was laid on the field of Guilford in the Battle of March 1781.


APRIL 8 2013
In the category of leave it to a newspaper to solve the mystery of why you can't find your great aunt pettus here in Portsmouth:
N.V. 03.02.1888 UNDER PORTSMOUTH: A private letter received in this city announces the death in KING PO CHINA ON JAN 18TH, OF MRS. ANNIE PETTUS wife of CAPTAIN T.F. PETTUS, american consul at that place, and the daughter of the late Robert Cooley of this city.

APRIL 7 2013
This falls under the interesting but SAD CATEGORY:
N.V. 02.03.1888: Another young lady has just died on her wedding day: this time it was Miss Mary Heron, a beautiful girl of Plattsburg NY, who was to have married a Mr. Thompson of Burlington VT. she went to bed in seeming perfect health on friday night last, and was seized with a violent hemorrhage of the lungs on sat morning.

APRIL 6 2013
Did you know that there are 16 german sailors buried in Elmwood Cemetery? Their ship the Elisabeth, went down in January 1887. N.V. 01.16.1887 Yesterday morning at 10:30am the virginia beach railroad brought to this city the 16 bodies of the german sailors from the Sand Hill beach which were washed ashore from the wreck of the german ship elizabeth. they were taken to the undertaking establishment..........................They were taken to Elmwood Cemetery were the bodies were received by the german Consul, Col. William Lamb the President of the Seamen's Friend Association and the Rev. J.R. Merritt chaplain, the bodies were commited to separate graves and at a late hour the last sad rights of burial were performed.
L. TURNER AND CLARKEN FRAYMERY were a couple of the men that were identified.

MARCH 31
i spent all day yesterday and into the late evening printing the FINAL edition of book 1 the city norfolk virginia marriages from 1850-1859. This book is different from previous editions in that it contains 100 or so more additional marriages and I took the time to create a index for both Bride and Grooms.

MARCH 16
during my indexing, I have seen less than 5 of theses: Especially during this time frame:
N.V. 01.28.1881
AT NORFOLK VIRGINIA JAN 27TH 1881 A SON WAS BORN TO EDWARD R. & IDA L. EMMERSON

MARCH 5 2013
Now for a number of years, close to 30 years the newspapers would print the list of people who had obtained marriage licenses, usually on the first day of the month for the previous month. The city of Norfolk and Portsmouth and Norfolk county published this list unfortunately PAC didn't. and Suffolk started a listing I think in the late 80's or early 1890's but don't quote me on that. You will see the listings in my newspaper index later this year.

But what caught my eye today was the following article (the first one i've seen, like this, for this area, I have seen them for other parts of the country.):

10.01.1879 N.V.
We notice among the list of marriages for the past month one of an indian couple. this is a rare incident for this part of the country.

the article refers to a Norfolk County couple Eli N. Bass and Dora Bass.



MARCH 4 2013

AFTER I finish the last 2 marriages books, which technically are done, except for newspaper re-checking, and also finish the marriage index from the newspaper and the obit index also from the Norfolk Virginian and the will book I started about 2 years ago, i think i need to go back and copy some of these chancery notices, they are FULL
OF INFORMATION.......
EXAMPLE NORFOLK VIRGINIAN 08.29.1879

FEB 15 2013

CHECK OUT http://nyvagenealogy.homestead.com/04181877A.jpg

AND READ ABOUT HOW A GROUP OF PEOPLE CONVINCED THEMSELVES THAT A MURDER HAD BEEN COMMITED AND READ THE CONCLUSION ON MAY 10 1877




FEB 14 2013
HAPPY VALENTINES DAY EVERYONE!

MY HUSBAND WOKE ME UP WITH BALLOONS AND ROSES...........






FEB 14 2013
IT'S the case of a Judge patting himself on the back and to let you know who has lost their voting rights; oh and the my ancestor disappeared for a few years where did he go????? and sometimes the punishment did NOT fit the crime........

N.V. 01.16.1877:
AS A MATTER OF INTEREST AND FOR FUTURE REFERNCE WE PUBLISH THIS MORNING A LIST OF CRIMINAL CASES DISPOSED OF IN THE COPORATION COURT OF NORFOLK DURING THE 1876 BY  JUDGE WILLIAM H. BURROUGHS PRESIDING.....

1. 01.04.1876 Charles Simmons, colored, for breaking into a vessel: sentenced to penitentiary for 3yrs.
2. Martha Moseley, colored, petit larceny 2nd offence, sentenced to jail for 20 days and to receive 20 stripes
3. Jim Brown, colored, for cutting with intent to maim and for petit larceny sentenced to receive 20 stripes and to be imprisoned in the pententiary for 5 years.
01.08.1876 Walter Hudgins, colored, burglary setenced to jail for 6 months and receive 35 stripes,
01.20.1876 Charles White, grand larceny setenced to penitentiary for 3 years.
01.08.1876 Isaac Smith, white, felony abduction setenced to penitentiary for 3 years.
06.07.1876 Edward Jones, ALIAS SUGAR JONES, Burglary, sentenced to penitentiary for 9 years.
06.07.1876 Alexina Knight, alias Pinkie Knight, white, grand larceny sentenced to penitentiary for 3 years.
10.12.1876 jane perkins keeping house of ill fame, setenced to jail for 2 months and to pay fine of $55.
10.04.1876 john thorowgood colored involuntary manslaughter, sentenced to jail for 3 months and to pay a fine of $5.





FEB 07 2013
08.24.1875 N.V.

SOME TIME SINCE WE NOTICED THAT IN LAYING THE WATER MAIN ON HAWK STREET, A NUMBER OF COFFINS CONTAINING HUMAN BONES WERE UNEARTHED. MR. GEORGE W. BLUFORD YESTERDAY INFORMED US THAT BETWEEN THE YEARS 1828-1838 THE PEICE OF LAND WHERE THESE COFFINS WERE FOUND WAS USED AS A POTTER'S FIELD AND A LARGE NUMBER OF BODIES WERE INTERRED THERE. SOME YEARS AGO WHEN MR. ARTHUR COOPER WAS STREET INSPECTOR THE STREET WAS OPENED AND UNDER HIS DIRECTION WAS GRADED DOWN THE SURPLUS EARTH BEING USED TO FILL UP THE SPOT WHERE THE CITY HALL NOW STANDS. AT THAT TIME A QREAT QUANITY OF BONES WERE DUG UP AND MANY OF THEM WERE DEPOSITED WITH THE EARTH WHEN IT WAS MOVED. MR. BLUFORD ALSO INFORMED US THAT WHILE THE EXCAVATION WAS GOING ON A TRUNK WITH A QUANITITY OF COIN IN IT WAS DUG UP , A PORTION OF THE CONTENTS FALLING INTO THE POSSESSION OF MR. COOPER.

JAN 28 2013
While I don't agree with the wording in this article, it still has historical value and I thought  I'd share. it's the norfolk virginian 06.28.1871 : title: colored cadet from alabama. we announce it to the world and the balance of mankind that our negro boy our pet waiting boy,  JOHN M. GEE is apointed as a cadet from the frist congressional district of this State to the Military Academy at West Point. It is even so. HON. B.F. TURNER negro member of congress from this district called on us and advised us of the appointment...... (The article goes on to give a little of John's background)

It's called enough "clues" to make you scream: LOL

THE WIDOW OF THE LATE ALBERT G. JENKINS OF CABELL COUNTY WEST VA CONGRESSMAN FROM VIRGINIA AND GENERAL IN THE REBEL ARMY  HAS RECENTLY MARRIED IN ST. LOUIS A GENTLEMAN OF THE NAME OF BROWN AND RETURNED WITH HIM TO RESIDE PERMANENTLY ON HER ESTATE AT GREEN BOTTOM CABEL COUNTY.  02.02.1871 N.V.


JAN 26 2013

An example of a very large marriage announcement, that makes you want to scream! it's over an inch in length....

Our esteemed young friend ROBERT O. EPES late of this city, but now a resident of Norfolk, Va, came into our midst yesterday and took unto himself a wife from among the fairest and most accomplished of PETERSBURG'S talented daughters. The ceremony was performed yesterday 6pm, by REV. C.H. HALL a the Washington Street M.E. Church  in the presence of a large gathering of friends.. 04.01.1870 N.V.       ....(it goes on for another paragraph BUT NEVER MENTIONS THE BRIDES NAME!.......) via census, I found the bride was Alice, but unable to determine exact maiden name

JAN 22 2013

EXAMPLE OF A "LINE" MARRIAGE NOTICE,

(aka, a line in a column of local or national tidbits") GENERAL JOHN B. HOOD was recently married to a very lovely and accomplished young lady of SOUTH CAROLINA, and the daughter of GENERAL JOHN S. PRESTON OF COLUMBIA IN THAT STATE. (while i appreciate having the fathers' name, it would have been nice to know the brides first name) N.V. 12.25.1865

JAN 22 2013
EXAMPLE OF A PAID MARRIAGE NOTICE:
IN THE CITY OF BALTIMORE, MD. 12.13.1865 AT FRANKLIN SQUARE CHURCH BY REV. T.G. JONES .... GENERAL M.W. WEST TO MARY A. BAILY both of Accomac county, Virginia
(N.V. 12.19.1865)


JAN 21 2013

Having finished the typing indexes for 1880's & 1890's last week, after the major set back of my usb drive eating my marriage book (thank god for the intelligence to have a back up copy- that only need 5 years retyped)  and wanting to take a break and work on my own family, (before conquering the newspapers and having to retype the earlier indexes) its occurred to me how valuable genealogy wise, my norfolk virginian and and at a later date the public ledger newspaper indexes are going to be. While I am the first one to tell you that sometimes newspapers are going to be priceless, in giving you that little extra piece of info, that solves the mysteries. trying to find that piece of gold can be extremely fustrating and time consuming. and possibly costly. trying to find if there was a newspaper during that time period in their city/town etc. then trying to find the names of the paper, see where it's avail and how much a look up will cost. or if it's avail online and if you don't know the date, or have to search a large period of time, it could take you a life time. and search engines, i'm telling you are NOT that helpful.... or that accurate............ LOL..... well in a month or two or three depending on my speed.... 1865-1890 index for the norfolk virginian should be ready to go and i'm almost finished with 1890's so maybe by the fall the whole thing 1865+1898 will be ready for publishing along with the marriage books. now remember these indexes (2) one for obits and one for marriages (2) is going to be mostly local & paid. aka if the king of england died, it's not in my index, if the president died it's not in my index..........     



DECEMBER 13TH 2012

CEMETERY WEBSITES LOCALLY

http://carolshouse.com/cemeteryrecords/

http://www.usgwtombstones.org/virginia/portsmouth.html

http://www.idreamof.com/cemetery/va/counties_i-y.html

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vanorfol/CEMETERYLISTS.htm

http://www.portsmouth-va-public-library.com/lincoln-african-american-cemetery

http://www.usgwarchives.net/va/norfolkcity/norfolkcitycem.html



DECEMBER 6 2012

I have delayed the publishing of the next 2 marriage books because I discovered that While the Norfolk Virginian Published 2-3 large marriage notices and 2-3 small marriages a month, the Public Ledger published 5-6 marriages a month. So I'm going back through the public ledger now. Hence, there will be 2 additional index books next year................

COMING IN 2013

CITY OF NORFOLK VIRGINIA MARRIAGES 1880-1889

EXPANDED TO INCLUDE THE NOTATION OF A MARRIAGE NOTICE IN THE NORFOLK VIRGINIAN AND THE PUBLIC LEDGER.

CITY OF NORFOLK VIRGINIA MARRIAGES 1890-1899?
EXPANDED TO INCLUDE THE NOTATION OF A MARRIAGE NOTICE IN THE NORFOLK VIRGINIAN AND THE PUBLIC LEDGER

NORFOLK VIRGINIAN INDEX OBITS 1865-1898

NORFOLK VIRGINIAN MARRIAGE INDEX 1865-1898

PUBLIC LEDGER OBITS 1876-1905?

PUBLIC LEDGER MARRIAGE INDEX 1876-1905?





NOVEMBER 29, 2012
The many friends of Mr. Anderson Gwin, a well known and much respected citizen, will be sorry to learn of his death, which occurred on sunday morning at the residence of his son George Gwin in Berkley after a short illness. He was 75. Funeral will take place this afternoon 4pm. from the residence of his son, on Virginia Street in Berkley. (N.V. 06.16.1891)

Larger obit occurs maybe 1 or 2 times a month depends on the importance in the community.
In our Tues issue we anounced the extreme illness of Mr. John J. Williams, a well known and highly respected citizen. Today we have to announce his death, which occurred at 10:25pm wed night after a lingering illness. Mr. Williams was 68 and was one of the trustees of the Portsmouth Orphan Asylum. He was a
member of the OLD DOMINIAN LODGE I.O.O.F. and was one of the past officers. He was also a member of 16 LODGE K OF P, AND THE PYTHIAN ENDOWMENT ORDER in which his life was insured for $3,000. He has held a number of prominent position both under the City and the UNITED STATES GOVERMENT. He leaves 4 Children, 3 daughters and one son all grown. His funeral will take place this afternoon at 4:30pm from Wright Memorial church.


NOVEMBER 27 2012

MY FAVORITES ARE THE ONES THAT GIVE LOTS OF "EXTRA" INFORMATION:

Yesterday morning at 10am in St. Mary's Catholic Church, Miss Ida C. Smith , daughter of the late Thomas Smith, and Mr. Henry R. Reardon, Bookeepper at the Norfolk National bank, were married,..........description of church, decorations etc. Rev. Father Doherty pastor of St. Mary's Church officiated assisted by Rev. Father Gaston Payne,  the bride and groom were unattended except by the ushers who were Mr. Walter I. Doyle cousin of the groom and Mr. Joseph M. Smith brother of the bride. ..... Description of clothing................... Organist, Chorus........ Bridal Trip


NOVEMBER 26 2012

While there are marriage announcements that give JUST FACTS:

At the residence of the bride's mother on Chapel Street at 3:30pm. 02.24.1893 by Rev. A.S. Lloyd to Mr. Milton Gornto to Miss Willie Whitsey.  While 75% of the announcements stop here , this one goes on to give the name of the attendents Mr. S. Petty AND MISS Miram Whitsey

NOVEMBER 23 2012

I like a marriage announcement that gives details, not the FLUFFY, details of what the bride wore and what flowers were used, but REAL details.............. PUBLIC LEDGER 06.25.1889 A NOVEL marriage ceremony took place in the private parlor of the Atlantic Hoel at noon today, the contracting parties were COL. JOHN G. WOMBLE a wealthy retired merchant of SMITHFIELD VA and MRS. PAULINE GORDON, late of WASHINGTON DC and in former years a popular society lady of NYC. The ceremony was performed by REV. O. BARTEN D.D. ..... The happy couple left for their home on the steamer LURAY..... The bride has but recently returned from a EUROPEAN tour in the company of her cousin, MRS. GEN. WILLIAM MAHONE......

NOVEMBER 9, 2012

Almost finished with book 4, City of Norfolk Marriages 1880-1889, over 3000 names and close to 200 pages. Including samples of the evolution of the marriage license in the City Of Norfolk from 1850-1889 and includes notations as to whether or not your ancestor placed a marriage notice in the newspaper.

OCTOBER 2, 2012
Genealogy tip 23:

NEWSPAPERS, While I am currently making an index of the local paper's obits & marriage notices from 1865-1898. the amount of information & history is remarkable. The amount of personal info before the age of identity theft is amazing. Mr. & Mrs. Smith are going on vacation to.... Tommy Jones is home to visit parents ....... Litte amy smith , fell and broke her arm, or Mrs. Miller
has a cold, The daily court house briefs and the YOU GOT MAIL column are regular columns in a lot of newspapers. During the late 1880's newspapers are the insight to what was important to the local's, and what their point of view was on the happenings of the day. Very interesting Reading.
 

OCTOBER 1 2012
I wonder if we could get a special interest group to do this? maybe the DAR, wonder why they haven't already thought of it. Well, it has come to my attention, that PAC, and City of Norfolk cemeteries have been very well documented especially for the OLD DAYS like pre 1900. But at the same time we have discovered that in regards to CEMETERIES, only, because everything else is extremely
well documented, but when it comes to cemeteries in City of Chesapeake aka NORFOLK COUNTY in the olden days, it's been extremely neglected. I asked a few questions of the leading historians in the area, several infact, and no one could answer my questions. 1. What's the oldest Public Cemetery? 2. Did the almshouse - the one on cedar NOT the taylor one, have a cemetery? 3. did any of the cemeteries in the area, have paupers graves?

READING: CURRENTLY James Patterson's suspect series featuring JACK MORGAN.


Sept 27 2012
Genealogy Tip 22:
I have always told people not to "force" connections. Just because your last name is washington or jefferson doesn't mean your related to the president............
Work with your own family, and work with what YOU KNOW to be true and WHAT U can PROVE..... if you find someone has posted the family tree online don't download it to your tree until you have proven to yourself the people in the tree are really related to you. Watch the names, watch the dates and then if things look good use them as a guide, NOT FACT. don't add them to your tree until you can get a 2nd opinion via obtaining documentation to back up the tree, birth,death, marriage records, census records etc.
Book tip 21: kresley cole & 22: kat martin

Sept 24 2012

Genealogy tip 21:

CEMETERIES..........
Please understand while interment.net and findagrave.com are excellent sites, they are NOT THE IT sites for your ancestors graves. First order of business SEND AWAY FOR THE DEATH CERTIFICATE.........
..... and or look for the obit if there is one, one or the other should give you a cemetery. if both don't give it up then find out where they lived, look around for the nearest cemetery and CALL THEM. you might get lucky, you might not.
Also call the local library see if they have any interment books on file, still it doesn't hurt to call the cemetery, a 5 minute call could prove extremely helpful.
ok, back to the internet, if you strike out on interment and findagrave as many people do, you might want to try and search LOCAL websites, either thru roots web or usgen web and if you get stuck you can always go the long way through cyndi's list. you could spend decades with cyndi...............
here are a few LOCAL cemetery sites for both Va and NY

http://carolshouse.com/cemeteryrecords/

http://www.usgwtombstones.org/virginia/portsmouth.html

http://www.idreamof.com/cemetery/va/counties_i-y.html

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vanorfol/CEMETERYLISTS.htm

http://www.portsmouth-va-public-library.com/lincoln-african-american-cemetery/

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~abramsc/index.htm

www.longislandgenealogy.com

http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/



GENEALOGY TIP 20: Expanding on tip 19. If you have a tremendous amout of time and patience, newspapers can be a treasure.... I have spent about 10 years going day by day through several of the local papers from 1797-1900. While Marriage & obits appear daily, usually by those who can afford to put them in the newspaper, their number during this time is limited to 1 or 2 a day. if that. But in later
years post 1865 There are a few columns that appear, one almost consistently on a daily basis, while the other more on a weekly basis. Is the "you have mail at the post office list." I have seen this list appear on a consistent basis, while it won't tell you much, except for the fact that your ancestor was getting mail here. at least like the city directory, it would give you a location to work with. The 2nd column that appears is the Court house /police info. As to whom was arrest for drinking and other court happenings.
I would also point out to you not to over look advertisements, I met a lady who was tracing her ancestor through them, it seems not only did her ancestor advertise their products for sale in the paper, but also provided some personal information, We are having a moving sale, we bought a new location, I just became a grandmother, come celebrate the birth of abc, it was very interesting reading,
I once saw an add for a run away slave, it was the most fantastic thing i'd ever seen, because although not good for the slave, it's great for the decendents because it listed ALL her relatives, names and where they were living, and this was PRIOR TO 1850, WISH the census had provided this information prior to 1850 for everyone.....
Book Tip 20: Richelle Mead two series, 1YA & 1ADULT





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SEPTEMBER 23 2012

GENEALOGY TIP 19: NEWSPAPERS these are a tremendous resource when researching genealogy. And depending on several factors, as time,fires,tornados, floods, etc, they exist from very early days of this country, also sometimes it's a matter of

FINDING THEM........ here are a few priceless websites that can be of tremendous help:
Digital Collections & Programs (Library of Congress)
http://www.loc.gov/library/libarch-digital.html


Obituary and Death Notice Requests | Queens Library
http://www.queenslibrary.org/research/archives/obituary-n-death-notice-requests


Welcome to Long Island Genealogy
www.longislandgenealogy.com

Brooklyn Genealogy Information Page Index
http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/

Historic Newspaper Brooklyn Daily Eagle Online (1841-1902)

Old Fulton NY Post Cards
http://fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html

http://www.lva.virginia.gov/

Book Tip 19: LARA ADRIAN




Sept 21 2012
GENEALOGY TIP 18, continued from tip 9.....
What is so wrong with the TELEPHONE? OMG, the way some people talk, you'd think it has a fatal disease. I used it myself the other day and called 2 cemeteries and was helped immediately while i w
aited on the phone? took all of about 5 minutes.
ok, so let's say your looking for a person who died in modern times, aka AFTER 1900. you have several options,
1. depending on when this person died, you could narrow down your field with the census.
2. finding out when this person disapeared from the city directory,
3. Calling & Or writing a cemetery....
4. Calling or writing a funeral home....
both 3 & 4 info can be found on the internet, in a thing called yellow pages.
5. then of course there is ssdi index, which you could use as GUIDE only, i have found the thing to be OFF, a little, like if a person died in the last day or so of the month, the death is listed in the following month.........not often but i have seen it happen.
6. You could send for a death certificate, www.vitalrec.com/va.html
7. findagrave.com & interment.net are useful
8. Now locally we have a few people (including the local library) doing FANTASTIC work putting interments online:
or one of the following websites, to find a grave and narrow down date of death,
9. http://carolshouse.com/cemeteryrecords/
10. Churches, Cemeteries and Funeral Bulletins -
http://cdm16450.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm
11. you could also call holloman & browne.... OR one of the other funeral homes in business during that time and see if he was buried out of their locations.
12. There are alot of family cemetery/church cemeteries listed in carol's website listed above.
13. And of course you could call one of the big cemeteries in va beach: rosewood,woodlawn or colonial grove which is on the border, unless of course he went into norfolk. then we hve more websites with interments:
14. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vanorfol/CEMETERYLISTS.htm
book tip 18. romantic times magazine or RT BOOK REVIEWS, love it, over 200 book reviews every month, it's the ONLY magazine for us book lovers.


SEPT 19 2012
Genealogy tip 17:
when asking questions BE SPECIFIC..............
Instead of saying: Can you help me find my jane doe.
Say: I am trying to locate the Birth/Marriage/Death certificate of JANE DOE in the state of Virginia probably norfolk county between 1853-1860.......

Instead of saying: I am looking for my JOHN SMITH'S obit in 1923...........
Say: I am looking for JOHN SMITHS' OBIT JAN 23, 1923
IN NEW YORK, MOSTLIKELY MANHATTAN, OR I'M looking for john smiths' obit dod is feb 2 1923, in the city of norfolk.............

if you email me and tell me a YEAR, then i'm going to email you back a whole bunch of questions, and ask you for state, county, month and date. and suggest you find a tombstone, funeral home or ssdi index, and send away for a death certificate, etc to narrow down the field, because if you want someone to search a YEAR< your going to pay a whole lot of money................. and it's going to take a very very long time to search a whole year day by day..........
book tip 17: diana gabaldon the outlander series.




SEPT 17 2012

Genealogy tip 16: tip 15 continued:
For those trying to find their relatives in the EARLY days of VA. Here are some suggestions in addition to those listed previously:
Virginia Colonial Abstracts by Beverley Fleet,
Early Va Marriages by william armstrong crozier.
Virginia marriages early to 1800 (1-877677396)
Some wills from the burned counties of Virginia by william lindsay hopkins,
Early Virginia immigrants 1623-1666
Virginia Bible Records by jeannette austin
Index to Virginia Estates 1800-1865
virginia wills and administrations
marriage and death notices from alexandria virginia newspapers
War of 1812 index,
Patriot index for DAR,
GENEALOGIES OF VIRGINIA FAMILIES FROM TYLERS QUARTERLY HISTORICAL AND GENEALOGICAL MAGAZINE
Book tip 16:Bertrice Small the skye o'malley series.
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SEPT 16 2012
Genealogy tip 15: I may have a few more ideas later in the week, but I wanted to list these few now for you. When searching or starting to search in a State when a county is not known. If your searching between the 1600 & 1800's. Then the first place to start is the Census. If the census is not available during your time period, then you move on to the

Virginia magazine of history and biography, the William and Mary College quarterly,
and Tyler's quarterly.....

Then on to Virginia marriages, early to 1800 Author Publisher:Heritage Quest,

Then on to Marriages of some Virginia residents, 1607-1800 Author Wulfeck, Dorothy Ford, 1897-

There are also the tyler quarterlies,

then for new york there is the the New York Genealogical and Biographical Record, Census, etc.

BOOK TIP 15: JULIA QUINN THE BRIDGERTONS

SEPT 15 2012

GENEALOGY TIP 14

Genealogy Tip 14:

patience. I think that's one of the hardest things with genealogy. When my mom was alive, and we made a new discovery we'd jump in the car and race off to the cemetery or library etc. Now she's gone and I'm living in a different state, So I have send away in the mail, (and wait from 2 months to a year for a reply, if some of the websites are to be believed, and pay as much as 90 or more for a piece of paper) or find a kind person, or wait until i can save up the money to go back to NY. And Boy the difference between NY and VA is extremely noticeable. There is SO MUCH of Virginia genealogy that is FREE or available in books that have been published and in libraries.... compaired to NY where everything is under lock and key. I had recently decided to order a couple of documents from new york, YIKES, i have heard $90 twice this week, I think that's one of the reason i stopped doing my own new york research and started helping Virginia decendent researches. It was too expensive to continue, besides I enjoy helping others and its one of the reasons i started my website www.nyvagenealogy.homestead.com to help others with their genealogy research.
book tip 14: LYNSAY SANDS the Argeneau's




http://www.nyvagenealogy.ho/



SEPT 14 2012
Genealogy Tip 13:
Another reason for "going" there. I opened some of my own genealogy books the other day and ended up spending 2 weeks, organizing and gathering up some new data.... which of course brought up new questions. so I made a few phone calls.....While I know genealogy is expensive, especially the fees for documents, etc all. My own previous experience with a over the top fee was always calvary...... well i just had one that topped that. Nassau County court house, you can go and do a search yourself and then pay 50 cents a copy. But if you want it by mail it's $90. plus the 50 cents a copy. So I guess we cancel that idea, or maybe a kind hearted person will go over there for me, for say $10 plus copying fees? LOL no wonder I stopped doing that side of the family. Which gives me yet another reason to Go There...... 9 hours and 400 miles,........ long way to go....
It was easier when I lived up there, just jump in the car and go... not anymore, price one pays for "country" living..... in Virginia. Love Virginia Records are easy and cheap to obtain........

Book tip 13. MARY BALOGH The Slightly Series, featuring the Bedwyns.


SEPT 13 2012
Genealogy tip 12: Organization: In the beginning a note book or two will do, or to those of you in the ELECTRONIC age a lap top will do....... but for the rest of us.....I'd start out with 4 data binder books probably 4 inches. And one small one about 2 inches for traveling. If you have a very large family you may end up needing more books, but 4 should be good to start. And the 5th book is for pe
digree charts, so you don't have to carry around 4 huge books, all you will need for travel is the pedigree charts.
One book is for your mother's mothers side, one is for your mother's fathers side. and the other is for your father's mother and your father's father. Dedicate each book to that one branch. put all your census print outs, birth records, death records, marriage records, newspaper clippings, directory listings funeral home etc. make a fact page for each person and use the clear plastic sleeves to keep all the supporting documents with the fact page.
Book tip 12: Laurell K. Hamilton's Anita Blake series


SEPT 11 2012
Genealogy tip #11. on this sad day of remembering 9/11. I thought to provide this link http://www.archives.nysed.gov/a/research/res_topics_gen_vitalstats.shtml to a site that helps guide you through obtaining new york documents, There were many times during my time of family researching  BEFORE computers where you'd write to chambers street only to have them tell you to write to worth street....LOL.  ONE is NYC Municipal Archives and the other is NYC Dept of health...... the trials and tribulations of researching in NY.

Book tip 11 is a reminder that  J.D. ROBB'S Eve Dallas series "in death" books takes place in New York,  oh and Delusions in death came out today, another reason it's on my mind today

SEPT 10 2012
Genealogy tip 10:

In doing genealogy over the last 25 years or, I have discovered that the one consistent thing that exists (unless of course fire or other unknown cause) is marriage records. These are the one set of records that have always been kept. There are birth and death records, of course but both are not always kept. While death records can be found in different forms, as cemetery records
,obits, death certiticates, wills, court transactions. Birth's not so much, I'd say 10 out of every 100 were recorded well up into the late 1800's and they are very hard to find, and often are in church records, if they exist at all. I know a few exist for the city of norfolk, but The list is very very small. marriage records were the one thing they actually recorded consistently over the years. And are usually the easiest to find. And believe it or not, one or two out of every 30 were actually recorded in the local newspaper. Now the chances of the newspaper actually existing are rare, but i have found marriage notices as far back as 1840's. I know of a newspaper that exists earlier but i have not had the chance to check it. I shall.

Book tip #10 sherrilyn Kenyon/kinley Macgregory- dark hunter series starts with fantasy lover and keeps on going, you need to read these in order and acheron's book will break your heart.

SEPT 9 2012

Genealogy tip 9.

Patience.

Sometimes doing genealogy is a SLOW process.
And if your starting from scratch, it's going to be EXPENSIVE. So if you need a few death certificates, try the 2 websites listed below, especially if you don't know the date of death.

http://www.germangenealogygroup.com/ or http://www.italiangen.org/

then search cemeteries and funeral homes. Once you get a date, then send for the death certificate,
if you find it on the websites above then include the certificate # with your requests. And once you have a date you can also look for an obit. If you are low on funds send for one certificate every few months. Also beware, that cemeteries are getting smart, and learning that this genealogy business can mean a few extra bucks. when I first started out Greenfield Cemetery in NY was free, now I understand they charge a fee, as does Calvary, a very very very large fee, and try not to let the perpetual care letter, they'll eventually send, depress you much......, mean while here in Virginia, I haven't heard about a cemetery charging fees yet. and for those of you in PAC OR Virginia Beach my friend Carol has done a fantastic job of listing interments on her site http://carolshouse.com/cemeteryrecords/

Book Tip #9 Stephanie Laurens, my Cynsters! read in order and start with Devil....... They are Regency Romances.



SEPT 7 2012
GENEALOGY TIP 8

While doing Genealogy Research via the internet is useful, nothing beats "GOING THERE" if you can afford the time and the money.........try and find out the library with the genealogy records. most of the time its the MAIN branch, use the internet to locate the library and search their card catalogue if avail on line, or  give them a call to find out what records they have on site. See if they have newspapers on microfilm and if they have town,county marriage, court minutes, court deeds, tith tables,census on films  on shelves. Locate the nearest church of the later day saints and do some inter library  loaning. etc.
Sometimes while you can ask for a look up, via phone or internet, nothing beats being able to skim through the book or films yourself and while you may or may not find grandpa joe, you might find his brother or sister or his parents listed. Or browsing through the micro film newspapers or walking through the cemetery and finding a tombstone with a whole bunch of your relatives listed. meeting up with the town historian who might know local places to search. I am not sure about now but you used to be able to pay a small fee and spend time going through records in both chambers and varick street. and of course the manhattan public library has millions of resources. While the library of virginia is also good. Others like the Queens/Jamaica Public library perform services for a small fee. Most court houses in virginia are also acessible to the public.

Book tip 8: Sookie Stackhouse &  harper connelly herself Charlaine Harris
(also Trueblood tv series on HBO, which is different from the books)  



SEPT 6 2012
GENEALOGY TIP #7

Here are a few sites, that can be useful searching a state when county is unknown. A few are "local" but they are useful sites.
1. cyndi's list. you could search for decades on this one.
2. www.nyvagenealogy.homestead.com
3.http://www.lva.virginia.gov/
4. www.familysearch.org
5. http://www.vagenweb.org/
6. www.interment.net
7.www.findagrave.com
8.if you belong to a library that offers free service to ancestry and heritage quest. both are good for census searches.

9. this is just for you to find the titles, then go to a library and find the books http://www.bainesbooks.com/varegsrs.php
10.DAR website, war of 1812 website
a few new york sites that are worth mentioning
www.longislandgenealogy.com
11.http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nymanhat/civilwar.htm
12.http://www.italiangen.org/
13.http://www.bklyn-genealogy-info.com/
14.http://www.nyhistory.org/
15.http://eagle.brooklynpubliclibrary.org/Default/Skins/BEagle/Client.asp?Skin=BEagle
16. http://www.nyscensushunt.com/

a few books that are extremely useful in narrowing down a search field IF you are searching PRIOR TO 1800

Virginia vital records : from the Virginia magazine of history and biography, the William and Mary College quarterly and Tyler's quarterly ISBN 0806309849

DOROTHY WULFECK'S MARRIAGE BOOKS
VIRGINIA MARRIAGES EARLY TO 1800 1877677396


BOOK TIP 7. JR. WARD BLACK DAGER BROTHERHOOD




SEPTEMBER 5, 2012

Genealogy tip #6:

When starting on your genealogical journey  keep in mind it can be VERY EXPENSIVE. Ancestry/Genealogy.com and heritage quest all cost money. And are good to use BUT if you have a library near by it's WORTH your while to check and see if they offer free genealogy computers aka ancestry and heritage quest free to patrons while in the library. Both Norfolk - Pretlow Branch & Central Library in Virginia Beach both offer these services. Also remember documents cost money. Average Death/Marriage record is about $12 depending on the location.  I know new york is higher than that, and for additional fees will do searches. Most cemeteries will also give you information for free, however, others where they have become overwhelmed with requests, have started charging and SOME like Calvary in New York not only charge a LARGE fee and I mean LARGE, last time I checked it was like $17 plus fees for additional names and then will send you the perpetual care love letter........ that you owe perpetual care for the last 200 years.......... tomorrow i will list some free web sites......

Book tip 6  
Kathy Reichs - Series which the tv show BONES is based on. Keeping in mind the books are WAY different than the tv show. 


SEPTEMBER 4, 2012

Genealogy tip #5:

When researching your ancestors try NOT to use other peoples family trees as your FACT. If you come from a large family and you find lots of people with trees posted on ancestry.com. use it as a guide, and only a guide, don't post their info into your tree until you are able to verify with a document. Let's say, a cousin's tree lists a date of death for your grandfather, you could then verify it by sending away for a death certificate and locating the cemetery. If the death happened in the last 50 years, depending on the funeral home and if they are still in business or if you can find out whom they gave their records too. They can be very useful in providing lots of information. Also Obits can also hold a great deal of information. Or they can be fustratingly small. I have seen a great many say John Doe Died suddenly saturday. very fustrating.  Also keep this tip in mind when dealing with census,death certs AND OBITS the info is only as accurate as the person giving it.

Book tip#5 James Patterson's women's murder club books 1-11. easy quick reads.    



SEPTEMBER 3, 2012
Genealogy Tip 4:

If you happen to be searching for an ancestor in Virginia prior to 1800, but don't know where in the state they lived you could try looking in the 1800 census, to obtain county, and dorothy wulfeck's books, and some of the other state books. when you learn the county go to the county's website on rootweb or vagenweb  http://www.vagenweb.org/ orhttp://usgenweb.org/ or the county's government site and the local libraries and www.familysearch.org is also proving to be a good website, although you must be careful here as alot of the marriage records (on the city line) are off, by  one line, so you might find the city where your ancestor was born is incorrect, and as of  yet, family search doesn't have a way to fix errors, so you might find multiple entries for your ancestor will similiar info and cities different.
Also the William & Mary Quarterly's are a good place to start.

Book Tip 4: Tess Gerristen- rizzoli and isles books. excellent! 

SEPTEMBER 2, 2012

Genealogy tip 3:

Before starting your trip into the genealogy world make sure to learn to be specific without giving your ENTIRE life story.... Example: I am looking for a death record for John Dear Dec 31, 1900...in this state and county.. See death records for that state & cemeteries. or I am looking for a marriage record for John Dear & Sarah Smith in this state/county March 1, 1900. Please don't write to someone: I'm looking for John Smith. or I'm looking for my grandparents and expect someone to know what you are talking about.   

Book tip 3:

Catherine Coulter writes a regency england series the sherbrookes, and a modern day FBI series with Savich & Sherlock. Which "might" one day be a tv series.

SEPTEMBER 1 2012

Genealogy Tip #2.
Once you have all your documents gathered. Take a piece of paper /pedigree chart etc. And write down what you know and can prove:

ME:
DOB & LOCATION
DOM & LOCATION

MOM
DOB & LOCATION announcement in paper if avail
DOM & LOCATION announcement in paper if avail
DOD & LOCATION OF WHERE BURIED AND WHERE DIED. obit.

DAD

MOM'S PARENTS, DAD'S PARENTS

THEN FIGURE OUT  a goal, what you would like to find out. and proceed.

Book tip 2:
JANET EVANOVICH;
ONE FOR THE MONEY, TWO FOR THE DOUGH, THREE TO GET DEADLY


AUGUST 31 2012

Genealogy Tip #1
GATHER up all your documents, birth cert, marriage cert, your parents documents, newspaper articles, like obits and marriage announcements. And your grandparents etc all.

Book tip #1

J.D. ROBB Eve Dallas "In Death" series. Naked in Death, Glory in Death etc. all.
Very good reading, Eve and her friends solve murders each book as relationships grow.

IMPORTANT WEBSITES ARE:


WWW.VITALREC.COM/VA.HTML

WWW.VITALREC.COM/NY.HTML

1. SEE MY HINTS PAGE FOR RESEARCH HINTS.

2. If u find something on one of the websites and would like more info. Make sure you tell me WHICH WEBSITE

WWW.NYVAGENEALOGY.HOMESTEAD.COM

OR

http://www.rootsweb.com/~vanorfol/

OR

http://www.rootsweb.com/~vaprinc2/

AND make sure you tell me which page of that website u found the
info on and if it is this one, then please tell me which state or county also.

Keep in mind I am not a mind reader...............
So if u ask about Jane Doe with out any thing info. Then expect me to ask questions, which state, which website etc.

For faster response include important items but don't give me the entire family tree either.




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